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Breed Love
FinFleet
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.02.28 04:38:00 -
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Edited by: Breed Love on 28/02/2009 04:38:51
 Originally by: Camdim
remove turrents and lauchers
I support this statement, I'm all for removing turrents and lauchers from ships, they suck! No other ship in eve has them, so why should t3?
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Originally by: Zhulik
I thought Premium graphics were supposed to fix that bug where people were trying to salvage Minmatar ships.
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Breed Love
FinFleet
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.01 06:24:00 -
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Theres something seriously wrong with Tengu, its cpu in any configuration is just plan suck, way below other caldari ships. Fix plzthx.
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Originally by: Zhulik
I thought Premium graphics were supposed to fix that bug where people were trying to salvage Minmatar ships.
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Breed Love
FinFleet
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.04 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Breed Love on 04/03/2009 12:36:19
Originally by: CCP Nozh
Small update:
We focused too much on having fewer slots with "preferred bonuses". Players chose subsystems based on bonuses and ended up with sub-par slot layouts. Players then started choosing subsystems based on slots and were unhappy with their bonuses. To fix this we reduced the slot amount "gap" (by adding slots) and boosted the less preferred bonuses.
CPU and Powergrid was revisited as promised. I'm hoping the fittings are pretty tight and that you have to downgrade some modules to be able to fit everything properly.
We've also now added names and descriptions to all subsystems, which should bring some ease to fitting. The description also holds bonus information.
Stuff that we're looking into:
- Tengu: Passive Tank, too uber.
- Legion: Capacitor might be a bit over the top
- Proteus: Might remove one hardpoint of the drone focused offensive system
Edit: Also added a remote repair bonus to all of the resistance based defensive subsystems. Only amount, so their limited in range and do consume quite a bit of cap.
Atm cpu and grid are balanced nicely imo, at least from what I've seen fitting the proteus, and tengu uber tank is just well... tank, doesn't do anything else. Regarding proteus, I'd say don't remove anything, the drone bonus is meh already (5% only and 4 drones), so it needs all the slots it can get.
I think you should look into propulsion systems instead, these require some balancing still. For example take the proteus once again: the mwd-cap-usage-bonus one (the bonus is very nice btw) also has the highest speed. The bonuses of the other two subsystems can be nice in certain situations, but nowhere as universally useful at the mwd cap use. For a pvp ship theres little competition really. I'd say either boost the base speed on the other two, or add some more bonuses to the other two, for example mwd cap penalty, agility etc (that is keeping the current bonuses aswell).
Oh, and also the warp speed subsystem looks badass, I'd like to use it so unnerf it pls!
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Originally by: Zhulik
I thought Premium graphics were supposed to fix that bug where people were trying to salvage Minmatar ships.
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Breed Love
FinFleet
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.04 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Perry
Proteus:
-> Certain configs are pretty powerfull, for example 6x neutrons 4x ogre 7high 7low 5med... Thats more then T2 BC put out ^^
1. That config still lacks gank if you ubertank it and vice versa. Its about the same as an astarte really. I wouldn't say its that overpowered, good definitely, but not too much. If drone damage bonus goes up to 10% per lvl, then yeah, I'd say drop a slot.
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Originally by: Zhulik
I thought Premium graphics were supposed to fix that bug where people were trying to salvage Minmatar ships.
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Breed Love
FinFleet
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.04 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xonja 2zero
stuff
QFT! Very well put.
tl;dr - proteus as a drone ship is meh already, dont nerf it further.
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Originally by: Zhulik
I thought Premium graphics were supposed to fix that bug where people were trying to salvage Minmatar ships.
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Breed Love
FinFleet
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.06 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Breed Love on 06/03/2009 20:04:34
Originally by: Jack Jombardo
um, duno but I fit Mediums, get good results and gus what ... don't run in CPU/GRID problems ^^.
Same with 1600 plates ... they are BS size moduls, 800 are BC, 400 are Cruiser.
Heavy puls/beams are BC size, Focused are Cruiser size.
That's just how I use em (well, not just me. Many more too). But might be the reson, why I nearly never run into any fitting problems ;).
You are doing it wrong then.
Back on topic: before everyone starts crying "omg proteus hax 800 dps!!" you need to consider that a third of it comes from drones, which against a good player die the instant you deploy them (because he knows you've got no spares). For the same reason, whoever said that proteus drone offensive doesn't need hybrid damage bonus, is wrong, because as long as our dronebay is 100m3, we need to rely on blasters to do most of the damage.
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Originally by: Zhulik
I thought Premium graphics were supposed to fix that bug where people were trying to salvage Minmatar ships.
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Breed Love
FinFleet
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Jombardo
Yes, they changed some stuff, some to the good, some to the bad. Beeing able to fitt far to much oversized stuff with no penaltys (fitting mods) is one of the bad changes.
Give an example of the "oversized stuff" you can currently fit too much of on t3 ships (and still have a viable setup).
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Originally by: Zhulik
I thought Premium graphics were supposed to fix that bug where people were trying to salvage Minmatar ships.
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